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Book Of Techniques IV - Ice Wall; v1.01
Topic Started: 21 Aug 2008, 12:13 PM (732 Views)
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Book Of Techniques IV - Ice Wall

**********
[31/07/2009]
v1.01
made some changes due to the changes in Malaysia server, whereby when IW is cast on self, it'll b diagonal instead of vertical
**********

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Ice Wall (IW)
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ps: to use IW related techniques, it is recommended that u got at least lv3 IW, so that it last long enough

IW unlike FW, its a solid wall, each cast will create 5 pillars of ice
although its a solid wall, it cannot block range atks

the pillar of ice actually doesnt not fully occupy the cell
the ice pillar actually looks like this

_ _ _ _ _
| | | | |


notice that the left n the bottom of each pillar is not closed
due to this nature, IW can be used to trap/lock monsters in it

the casting of IW is almost similar to FW

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4#6
123


if u cast at point 4, #, 6, then it'll become Vertical Ice Wall(VIW)


^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^
^89≡≡≡≡≡≡7^9≡≡≡≡≡≡78^
^#6≡≡or≡≡4#6≡≡or≡≡4#^
^23≡≡≡≡≡≡1^3≡≡≡≡≡≡12^
^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^


if u cast at point 8, 2, then it'll become Horizontal Ice Wall(HIW)

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4#6≡≡≡or≡≡≡4#6
123≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^^^^^


if u cast on point 7, 9, 1, 3, then it'll become Diagonal Ice Wall(DIW)

≡≡≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡^≡≡≡≡
≡≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^≡≡≡
≡≡^89≡≡or≡≡78^≡≡
^4#6≡≡≡≡≡≡4#6^
^123≡≡≡≡≡≡123^

^789≡≡≡≡≡≡789^
^4#6≡≡≡≡≡≡4#6^
≡≡^23≡≡or≡≡12^≡≡
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≡≡≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡^≡≡≡≡



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[31/07/2009]
when cast on self, the Ice Wall becomes diagonal instead of vertical
confirmed that this happens to Malaysia server and Taiwan server
Japan server remain vertical

^≡≡≡≡
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4#6
12^
≡≡≡≡
^


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to lock a monster using IW, its all about timing
the slower the monster move, the ezier to lock
n there are 2 basic ways to lock monsters, normal lock, and reverse lock
normal lock is only used against monsters coming from ur left n below
while reverse lock is only used against monsters coming from ur right n above

------------
Normal Lock
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when monsters are approaching from ur left or bottom
try to cast IW at point X, control ur casting timing, so that the IW's pillar come out right when the monster steps on point X

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≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡
M→x≡≡≡#≡≡or≡≡≡≡≡≡≡
≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡x≡≡
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≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡M≡≡


if success, it'll b like this

≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡#≡≡
≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡
≡≡M≡≡≡#≡≡or≡≡≡≡≡≡≡
≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^^M^^
≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡
≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡


but in reality, u'll c it like this, the monster looks like its out from the ice pillar, but actually its already been locked inside

≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡#≡≡
≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡
≡≡
^M≡≡#≡≡or≡≡≡≡M≡≡
≡≡
^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^^^^^
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remember that the pillar's left and bottom are not closed?
so if there are other players who walk on the other side of the IW
the monster will go n chase the other person instead
to prevent that form happening, jz cast another IW on the left side of the original 1

^^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡#≡≡
^^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡
^^M≡≡#≡≡or≡≡≡≡M≡≡
^^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^^^^^
^^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^^^^^
≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡


by doing so, all sides of the pillar r closed, therefore unless the monster teleport/dash like a bullet, if not there is no way tht it can escape out

live example:
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Reverse Lock
-------------

if the monster is comming from ur right, then normal lock wont work
remember tht the pillar's left and bottom r not closed?
if u lock a monster comoming from ur right
it'll become like this
_
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_|
M|←
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|


since the left part of the pillar is not closed, it'll still go straight after you
the same scenario will happen if the monster is comming from above
thats why the reverse lock method is needed for these kinda situations
reverse lock requires even more precise timing compare to normal lock


lets say a monster is moving towards u from ur right/above
first, cast an IW like this

≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡M≡≡
≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡
#^≡≡M≡≡or≡≡≡≡≡≡≡
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≡≡
^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^^^^^
≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡
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#≡≡



then when the monster touches ur first IW, immediately cast another IW to lock it

≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡
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^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡
#^M≡≡≡≡≡or≡≡≡≡≡≡≡
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^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡M≡≡
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^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^^^^^
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#≡≡


if success, it'll become like this

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#^M≡≡≡≡≡or≡≡≡≡≡≡≡
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^^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^^M^^
≡≡^^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^^^^^
≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡
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#≡≡


although in reality u'll c it like this

≡≡^^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡
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^^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡
#^^M≡≡≡≡or≡≡≡≡M≡≡
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^^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^^^^^
≡≡^^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^^^^^
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#≡≡


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Cross Lock
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other than these basic 2 types of locking, there is also another type of locking method
which is called Cross Lock
Cross Lock is normally use when the monster spawn beside u, or its already hitting u

lets say the monster is at point 7, 9, 1, 3

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4#6≡≡or≡≡4#6≡≡or≡≡4#6≡≡or≡≡4#6
123≡≡≡≡≡≡123≡≡≡≡≡≡M23≡≡≡≡≡≡12M


cast 2 IW on the red ^ point like this

^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^
^M^^^≡≡≡≡≡≡^^^M^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^89≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡78^
^#6≡≡≡or≡≡≡4#^≡≡≡or≡≡≡^#6≡≡≡or≡≡≡4#^
^23≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡12^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^M^^^≡≡≡≡≡≡^^^M^
^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^


then u jz move away, n its locked

if the monster is at point 8, 2

7M9≡≡≡≡≡≡789
4#6≡≡or≡≡4#6
123≡≡≡≡≡≡1M3



**********
[31/07/2009]
due to the change, this method cant b use in our server
so jz move ur char 1 cell to the left or right, n lock the monster using the previous method

then jz cast 1 IW on urself, then 1 IW on the monster

≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^≡≡
^^M^^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡7^9
4#6≡≡≡or≡≡≡4#6
1^3≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^^M^^
≡≡^≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡^≡≡


then jz move away, n the monster is locked


**********

if the monster appear on point 4, 6, then cross lock cannot b use
u mz adjust ur position to be able to use cross lock, either walk 1 step up or 1 step down

live example:
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Other than locking, IW can also be use for defensive purposes

------------
Ice Fortress
------------

**********
[31/07/2009]
made some changes due to the change that IW cast on self wil b diagonal instead of vertical
pictures remain unchanged(cz i lazy to take new pics again)
not as effective as before, since thr'll b a "hole", but still usable
u can cast 2 more IW at point 8 n 2 to cover up the hole
**********

Ice Fortress is a method which uses IW to surround urself n protect from monster's atk
ps: this wont work on range atk monsters

to use this technique, simply cast IW on point 4, #, 6

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4#6
123


then it'll become like this

^^^
^^^
^#^
^^^
^^^


since u cover urself up with IW, most melee monsters cant atk u cz their atk range is only 1 cell
n u r free to atk them as u like

live example:
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to be on the safe side, u can cast additional IW on the red ^ point like this

^^^^^
^^^^^
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^^#^^
^^^^^
^^
^^^
^^
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so that when the first 3 IW melts, it'll become like this

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^≡≡≡^
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it givs u time to recast the previous 3 IW to fill up the space n provide continuous protection
the only down side of this method is that it is static

live example:
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Other Chapters:
Book Of Techniques I - Movement
Book Of Techniques II - Fire Wall
Book Of Techniques III - Chaining
Book Of Techniques IV - Ice Wall

Book of Advanced Techniques I - Cross Fire
Book of Advanced Techniques II - Fire Storm
Book of Advanced Techniques III - Delay Overwrite
Book of Advanced Techniques IV - Sandwich
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v1.01
changes some detail, cz of the change in IW in our server(Malaysia), whereby IW cast on self will b diagonal instead of vertical
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Wao! Thanks ya! It may be useful on my wizard.

My Ice Wall is just hit the required level, level 3. And it's duration is 16 second. So, after the tehniques active, we have the enough time cast 1 circle magic to defeat it. But how if after the circle magic the monster did not die and I am on the time of delay? Just run?

Too, if againsting fast movement speed monster? Timing must be good to activate? ==

And I have tried in Prontera server, Ice Wall can be a circle around if you cast on point 4, 7, 8, 9, 6, 3, 2 and 1(follow the sequence ). But it isn't useful since when you finish to build up 1 then 4 is almost gone, unless you leart level 10 of Ice Wall.

And, can Ice Wall block M.V.P.? If can, four wizard can just make the M.V.P. wrapped in a circle just like below:

==================
=W^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^W=
==^===========^==
==^===========^==
==^===========^==
==^===========^==
==^=== M.V.P.===^==
==^===========^==
==^===========^==
=W^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^W=
=================

W= Wizard
^ = Ice Wall

So, is this possible?
Edited by GreenGoblin, 26 Nov 2009, 06:27 PM.
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good to know some1 still interested in stuffs like this XD

well,1st thing
lv3 is a minimum to pull off any IW related techniques
for starters, its recommended to get about lv4~6, especially if your dex is still low or your build doesnt hav high dex

another thing is that
most of the time, the higher your dex, the lower your IW lv, since u can cast faster, thrs nonid to lock the monster that long anymore

another thing is that, the better you master IW-locking, the lower the lv of IW is needed

I myself learned IW lv6, since i'm an AGI wiz with not that high dex (80+ total if i remember correctly, too long never login XD)

n if i ever get to hi-wiz, i might lower it to lv5 or mayb lv4

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after cast delay is the weak spot of wiz
basically u cant do anything other than run during that period
or u can use magic scrolls to overwrite that delay
read more about delay overwrite here: Book of Advanced Techniques III - Delay Overwrite

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the faster the movement of the monster, the more precise the timing of IW-lock is needed
1 thing to counter that, is to use quag mire against it to slow it down, provided you got learn it
or jz let it come close n lock it(risky)

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there is basically nonid to cast so many IW around you XD
just cast on 4, 8, 6, 2, n your already surrounded by ice pillars

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IW lock can b use on MVP
but there is 1 problem if use on MVP
most MVP got this... characteristic?
when they are idle or when they got a target but they can't hit it due to obstacles, if they receive damage during this period, most of them will teleport
so, unless you can solve the teleport problem, if not then IW lock can only be use to get the MVP out of your way by forcing them to teleport, but not killing them

but i didnt login the game for quite some time(acc no credit XD), so i'm not sure whether there are any major changes to this or not
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26 Nov 2009, 09:20 PM
IW lock can b use on MVP
but there is 1 problem if use on MVP
most MVP got this... characteristic?
when they are idle or when they got a target but they can't hit it due to obstacles, if they receive damage during this period, most of them will teleport
so, unless you can solve the teleport problem, if not then IW lock can only be use to get the MVP out of your way by forcing them to teleport, but not killing them
Yes, from what I know, L.P. by Scholar can solve problem and make us got more chance to lock the M.V.P. down?
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LP is 1 way tht works previously
but i tot they they've counter this by allowing MVP to teleport on LP?

no harm trying though XD
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Due to the poorness of me. So, I am unable to try it out. Just can talk here.
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well, at least u r interested in it, which is a good thing
i tot no players r interested in these kinda technical stuffs edi, especially in our server =w=
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gravity has indeed "nerfed" LP by allowing boss class monsters (not only mvp) to teleport on LP. This is practically just to avoid player abusing locking skills like icewall, spiderweb, etc on mvp and used long range attack to take down the mvp. More like a measure to discourage solo-ing mvp by making solo-ing not possible (not all the case though,you can still solo the mvp if you can tank it well). I don't think gravity will change this "nerf" back to stopping boss class monsters to teleport on LP.

So basically now it's not possible to use such skill to stop take down an MVP. you will have to have at least a tanker tanking the mvp to avoid it from teleporting.
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About the Ice Wall Techniques, I heard my friend said that, there is already have a video record to this about this techniques in YouTube. And he had learnt it well.

And those M.V.P. blocking techniques is no more, I agree. So, stop dreaming about it.

Is started to think that, am I joining the wrong online game or the online game held by the wrong company.

I can only see the darkness of the future of the game. Sometime, just some light crossing darkness. Even though, darkness is still most of the future.
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well, i learn those techniques(basically all except delay over write) by going thru ancient(?) articles in chinese n japanese
then i got in contact with those senior wiz players in taiwan, who discovered the techniques, n learn directly from them (thru msn)

those vids, i got it from them, still in my HDD XD
if u wan i can upload them
bt u might not understand it, since thrs no explanation on the vid

bt if u search on youtube, shld b able to find also, provided u know the correct term for it

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well, wrg game or wrg company...
i'd say wrg company XD;;
JRO is doing pretty well, n they jz celebrate their 7th anniversary
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vid(a big laggy though, cz the 1 recording, his connection not that good) click me

look at wad JRO did, n look at wad we got...
when is the last time we got such events with that many players participating? 4 years back? or izzit 5 years back when our server jz started?

if i got the chance, i'd definately go JRO, too bad they restricted the game access to only jp ip
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